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Post by Lau on Nov 15, 2004 5:30:48 GMT 10
Nope!
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Post by Giliathriel Alquasilme on Nov 17, 2004 14:18:32 GMT 10
This is very amusing... *big grin*
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Post by Seles on Nov 27, 2004 0:21:39 GMT 10
Okay, concerning the leadership bit. When I read the books, I was under the impression that the fellowship was lead by Gandalf and upon his death, leadership fell to Aragorn - naturally. That was of course, over the period when the fellowship existed. Right after the breaking of the felloship, there was no apparent form of leadership in any of the groups, just cooperation I guess.
On their interaction, I divided the characters into pairings (*coughs* no pun intended) or groups (same goes!). Gandalf and Aragorn often sat together, discussing about the route the fellowship ought to take. Basically, I think the hobbits hung out with each other more since they'd probably prefers others around their size to the big-folk, within this grouping; Merry and Pippin probably stuck together more while Frodo and Sam fell back on their master-servant relationship (please). Legolas was pretty reclusive, as were Boromir and Gimli. Like what some of you have stated earlier, Legolas and Gimli had the race barrier to overcome (*graduates from coughing to violent hacks*). Well I'm not too sure about Boromir's social life though, didn't really concentrate on him and whatever subtleties Tolkien inserted in reference of his character.
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Post by ara46 on Dec 2, 2004 8:57:09 GMT 10
veerry good point!I think Seles is right on that score.
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Post by Giliathriel Alquasilme on Dec 9, 2004 11:54:34 GMT 10
*sits dumbfounded and tries to take in what Seles said* Exactly. verrry good point! *stares dumbly*
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Post by Nightmare From The Abyss on Dec 12, 2004 13:10:20 GMT 10
I'm not saying anyone in this thread has done this yet (and to say the honest truth, I don't know, I did not read the entire thing! bad me, oh well!), but I just get tired of people bashing Boromir. I mean, lets take a look at fact for a second. What happened to Isildur? He saw the ring, and he took it. And when Elrond told him to throw it into the fire 10 minutes later, Isildur couldn't do it! The ring has that kind of effect on NORMAL men, especially those who lust for power. Take Boromir. His father Denethor is basially in pretty bad shape right now. The dark times are coming, and Frodo has in his hands a weapon that could be used to restore power to Gondor. Boromir was so concerned about the good of his kingdom, that he was blinded by the evil the ring produced. This was the effect that I think the Ring had on Boromir, it looked good in his eyes, when in reality, it could be his downfall. Boromir's intentions were good, he loved his father, his kingdom, and the Fellowship. But you can't get down on him for being an ordinary man. And then, to cap off my point, look at how he died! I don't remember the number of Orcs he killed defending the hobbits, but he knocked off a whole bunch. He died a hero, and while maybe he had his downfalls, his potholes, his speedbumps along the way, he was still an overall awesome guy.
*takes a deep breath and goes for a glass of water* sorry to be preachy, but I just get tired of the derogatory views of Boromir from some people...
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Post by Seles on Dec 15, 2004 11:43:27 GMT 10
Excellent point NFTA, though I don't see the relavance to the original topic so try to keep to that next time, as tempting as it was to defend a character that has been flamed, bashed and downgraded by ignorant fans. *grins* Anyway, could you start another thread in this forum on that topic? I would love to continue the discussion with you there!
To everyone else: *bows* Thank you, I'd accept my prize now!
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Post by Fiwen Brandybuck on Mar 25, 2005 21:27:36 GMT 10
I think that Gandalf was the real leader, as he knew much more of the lands and was looked up to as a sort of father figure, but he always tried not to act as the leader, and consulted people before doing anything, like Aragorn and Frodo. I think that the others did look up to him as the leader though, and trusted him. As previously said, the whole fellowship started to fall apart when they thought he had gone.
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Post by RunyadStouty on Apr 24, 2005 15:00:53 GMT 10
The real leader I suppose, was Gandalf, and when he fell Aragorn. They were both strong, and stood out and seemed to be who everyone turned to
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Post by Morgoth on Apr 28, 2005 10:42:04 GMT 10
*gives Seles a squider, this one, an offspring of Solace, named.. Skwerl* Well, I agree, there have been some great pointsses here. In my opinion, each person of the Fellowship was a leader in some aspect, perhaps with the exception of Merry and Pippin, as they were kind of along for the ride... *no pun intended with reference to Treebeard* eeh
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