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Post by Giliathriel Alquasilme on Mar 4, 2005 8:57:11 GMT 10
I don't really think it will have the same character if the main staff members are different. They put themselves into their movies, that's what makes them that way. In that way I think Peter Jackson, having done the first three, will be the only one for the hobbit because it will be a different style. He set the precedent, and people will not be happy if it's broken...
How do I spell thee? Let me count the ways... one, two... ok, so what? Blah![/b]
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Post by Morgoth on Apr 8, 2005 7:26:51 GMT 10
Think about the Harry Potter movies- the first couple were done by one director, the last one was by a different guy. Personally, I couldn't care less who directed those films, but the latest one far surpassed the first two (or however many there were). Maybe The Hobbit would be like that, if done by someone other than Pete.
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Post by Giliathriel Alquasilme on Apr 8, 2005 11:57:15 GMT 10
whatever. Btw... it was a good thing HP got a better director, but we KNOW PJ is good.
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Post by Fiwen Brandybuck on Apr 19, 2005 1:12:37 GMT 10
Yeah, but we don't know how anyone else could do it if they directed it. It would be great if someone could do it even better than PJ, but who knows? However, I bet they'd have to cut some good bits out anyway, whoever it was.
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Post by Morgoth on Apr 19, 2005 6:46:29 GMT 10
They were taking a chance with changing the directors of HP, I think The Hobbit could be done just as well by another person. Besides, many, many people do not like the way PJ did LotR. I agree, no matter who did it, they would have to cut out parts. But to completely change some things, like PJ, I don't agree with that. Don't get me wrong, I loved the movies, but they weren't entirely true to Tolkien. In my opinion, that is worse than cutting things out, it's like taking someone's words and twisting them. I don't think Tolkien would appreciate that, and I know I wouldn't either. It would be like me saying" Hi Larry!" And a reporter writing that I say "Larry is smelly and his kids are ugly!" I mean, it isn't the best comparison, but it makes sense.
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Post by Fiwen Brandybuck on Apr 23, 2005 4:10:38 GMT 10
I can see what you mean about changing who says things as being worse than missing things out, and I think that there will always be some bad points about any director; I mean, there were bits about all three Harry Potters that I didn't think worked, but each one had its advantages. Don't you think it would be the same with the Hobbit and LOTR, whoever directed it?
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Post by Morgoth on Apr 23, 2005 5:38:51 GMT 10
Wow, that was probably the longest sentence I've seen in a long time...
I agree with you on that though, PJ had an amazing staff, and they made some aspects of the movies really true to Tolkien's Middle Earth. Actually, I think it all comes down to a matter of opinion- do you take the movies for face value, or are you wanting something more true to what Tolkien would have wanted? (assuming that any movie made about his books, that he would want them un-changed, at least as much as possible). Alot of people loved the movies, and that's perfectly alright. If you're a Tolkien scholar, then they would most certainly want the movies to reflect Tolkien's work, not that which is mingled with the brain-child of Tolkien and the director.
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Post by RunyadStouty on Apr 24, 2005 15:25:29 GMT 10
As long as we could get some of the actors back for the movie such as Bilbo and Gandalf, and PJ must direct it..if PJ doesnt direct it, I dont want it
Morgoth, your points are very valid, as well
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Post by Morgoth on Apr 25, 2005 0:38:16 GMT 10
Runyad- I agree, if the do end up making The Hobbit, the characters should be played by the same actors. The main difficulty there, is that they might have aged even more, or worse, be dead. Who knows, Pete is working on the King Kong movie, and that's going to take long enough, by the time he (if he does it) gets to The Hobbit, the actors might not want to be in another movie like that.
What I don't understand, Runyad, is why you wouldn't want a movie directed by somebody else. If PJ does it, it might not even be out by 2010. If Newline, or whomever has the rights to the book, decides to let another director have a go at it, I'd be just as happy. Don't get me wrong, I do like the idea of continuity, having the aspects of the movies very similar. I just don't know if Peter Jackson would do the best job with The Hobbit.
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Post by Fiwen Brandybuck on Apr 25, 2005 1:14:28 GMT 10
I hadn't thought of that. If they are going to make a movie out of 'the Hobbit', it should be sooner than later, so that we could use the same actors. I would rather have the same actors and a different director definitely, as I can't imagine it being done with a different Gandalf.
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Post by RunyadStouty on Apr 25, 2005 10:48:59 GMT 10
Morgoth- I see your point. I just feel comfortable with PJ . I mean there have been other attempts to make Tolkiens work into films. Have you seen the cartoons? They're awful. I just don't want someone to mess things up, but your right, it doesnt have to be PJ
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Post by Morgoth on Apr 26, 2005 7:52:02 GMT 10
I see what you are saying as well, Runyad. I haven't actually seen the cartoons, but my friend has, and she said they're pretty awful. Obviously, a venture like that is going to be "low-budget," and Lord of the Rings just isn't the type of thing that can be done justice with cartoons or low-budget films. I think the right director, with enough of a budget, that wants to keep the spirit of Tolkien, could do a good job with the movies as well.
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Post by RunyadStouty on Apr 26, 2005 12:42:00 GMT 10
Well I think I have been swayed, I am no longer feeling dependent on PJ. Maybe a new director would have a fresh look on Tolkiens writing, and do something really great w/ the hobbit
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Post by Morgoth on Apr 27, 2005 12:59:44 GMT 10
*grins* My point wasn't to change your opinion at all, but I'm glad you can see it from my perspective now. I like what you said, "...a fresh look on Tolkiens writing..." My points here are pretty much expended, and my brain power is as well, so I'll make it brief. A new director may be that breath of fresh air "true" Tolkien fans (like Alan Lee), and would make it possible to come out with The Hobbit long before PJ could. (what with the King Kong and all) Which makes me think, did he do it for the money? I mean, if he really was a true Tolkien fan, wouldn't he do the Hobbit as well, as soon as possible, instead of filling time with this already-remade way too many times to count movie? (aka King Kong). Anyway, I'm done, at least for today... hehe
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