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Post by EstelUnderhill on Oct 6, 2004 11:15:47 GMT 10
We all noticed the lack of Tom and Goldberry in FotR. I would have liked to see them, especially Tom. Bu I understand why he was left out. What do you think of this. Do you hate the fact that he was left out. Or do you wonder why he was left out? Well whatever, post away!
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Post by Seles on Oct 13, 2004 0:22:13 GMT 10
Personally, I've always felt that Tom Bombadil was pretty unnecessary. All he did was pass the hobbits some swords and provide a bed for them when they were worn out after the barrowdowns, apart from that, he did little to alter the plot in any way. so tecnically, the movie didn't require him much. Plus, the audience would probably question the nature of this enigmatic character, and when they do the producers (unless they wish to incur the wrath of Tolkienites everywhere) can't offer an answer. We don't even know what Tom Bombadil is, and what his purpose on middle earth is. He's just a singing person with a considerable ability to repel evil.
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Post by ara46 on Oct 13, 2004 4:51:34 GMT 10
Tom Bombadil is a key charactor in the books. he saved the Hobbits when they were beside the river from Old Man Willow and again when they were in the Barrow Wight's lair when they were in need of his assistance. but he does not do very much for the story line of the films in the way Jackson made them.he was the one who also provided an escort for the Hobbits on the way to Bree.
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Post by Seles on Oct 14, 2004 18:10:10 GMT 10
Yes he did save the hobbits, but technically if the barrow wright never appaered, the hobbits wouldn't need saving. The entire portion of the story was cut out for time, thus rendering Tom an unnecessary character to have in the films. Like I've said before, even if that portion of the story was included, I doubt Tom would have a profound effect on the audience or plot, the only thing that he did that continued on past his portion of the story was to hand them swords. After that, there's little or no mention of the strange blue and yellow man.
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Post by Caewýn Alquasilme on Oct 21, 2004 13:11:39 GMT 10
well, there were lots of things that were left out as we all know, and obviously it would have been very hard to pick out what was absolutely essential and what was not. For people like me who saw the movies first, they had enough trouble keeping up with the characters as it was, without even more of them! Plus, I guess some magic is held in the book, the images of what could have been are left to the imagination.
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Post by Giliathriel Alquasilme on Oct 30, 2004 14:02:54 GMT 10
I thought it would've been nice, but the movie was long enough already, and if they had Bombadil, they would've had to have had the whole old forest sequence, adding about half an hour to the total time. *sigh* at least we have the books
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Post by Fiwen Brandybuck on Nov 9, 2004 3:21:16 GMT 10
I think that, obviously, the films should have stayed as close to the books as possible, but people like Glorfindel and Tom Bombadil have to be missed out sometimes. I did read an interview with Peter Jackson and he said that they were going to have the hobbits walking through a wood, see Tom's hat and hear him singing, then run away in fright. I can't understand why they didn't put this in, just to satisfy everyone.
I suppose they did have Treebeard doing a sort of Tom Bombadil in the extended edition of the Two Towers, but it wasn't the same.
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Post by Vugar on Nov 13, 2004 16:36:19 GMT 10
Tom would be quite a hard character to portray. Just the way he acts, you would have to do it well or it would just fail terribly in how he sings and moves. That may have been a contributing factor to his lack of appearance, but Tolkien does state himself Tom is not necessary to the narrative, though a complex and interesting character he is.
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Post by Giliathriel Alquasilme on Nov 13, 2004 16:40:47 GMT 10
I think it would've been way to complicated to explain that Glorfindel was an elf returned from the dead, and they neaded a good way to introduce Arwen. I liked the way it turned out. Power to the Women!! She was so cool being chased by the nazgul.
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Post by Seles on Nov 23, 2004 5:24:41 GMT 10
Fiwen, good thing PJ didh't include that scene then, as it would make sense, having the hobbits run off screaming all because they spotted a hat and heard screaming. Ooh, rhyme *pokes self and dies*
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Post by Giliathriel Alquasilme on Dec 8, 2004 13:59:04 GMT 10
*laughs* It's the sorting hat!
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Post by RunyadStouty on Apr 24, 2005 15:21:39 GMT 10
I understand why he was left out, time issues. First of all, you just explained the whole history of the Ring, and then to meet a character who does not resemble any of the known races, and when you just tell the audience nobody can control the Ring, he is unaffected by it. He is unesstial to the main, plot, but I'd love love love to see him on screen
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Post by Morgoth on Apr 25, 2005 0:57:29 GMT 10
I agree Runyad, he would have made people go "What??" The way the movies are, TB would have been so weird, it wouldn't have worked. Like Seles said, he really wouldn't have contributed much to the plot, beyond passing the swords to the hobbits. Ooh wow, shiny pointy things! Yay, I like that guy wearing weird clothes! yippe!
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