Elves at Helms Deep? (TTT)

[EstelUnderhill]

I liked the Elves turning up at Helms Deep. I thought it was a good way to show a last alliance between the world of Men and the world of Elves. But I know some people hate it. What are your opinions on the matter. Was Peter Jackson all wrong to do it? Or do you agree with me?

[Caewýn Alquasilme]

I was waiting for the, but there is now way that they could have gotten there in the time that was portrayed in the movie, as per many a plaza discussion! personally, I thought it was great, a nice little touch.

[ara46]

Seeing the elves at Helms Deep was a nice way to show that even some people are willing to help when there is need.I think that Peter Jackson did quite well in bringing that into the movie.

[Steorrlith]

It really helped those people who didn't read the books emphasize the point about the last allience of men and elves, I think it's really great and kind of shows how all the races are allies against Mordor.

[Vugar]

Besides, the men were many times less than that of the books. Elves are great warriors and would help in defending the fort. Haldir puts it better than anyone else really. They did come to honour that alliance. The fact that many of them are slain only supports it.

[Giliathriel Alquasilme]

I agree, Estel, it really did show the alliance. I was sad they had to kill of Haldir, but I guess since no one else died, they had to add some tragedy/ I wish it had happened in the books, too.

[Tenacious]

I couldn't stand the appearance of the Elves at Helms Deep. It was totally inacurate and should never had happened. I appreciate that it tried to show the alliance between men and elves but all it did was show how weak men were and that they couldn't defend themselves. PJ could have showed the alliance different ways, more subtly like Tolkien did in the books.

[Lau]

I liked it though I couldn't stand they didn't let you know what happened to the elves after. I mean they fought and I guess they expect you to think they all die!

[Caewýn Alquasilme]

thats an interesting way of thinking about it Tena, but I can see why you think of it like that. Personally, I think it had nothing to do with men not being able to defend themselves, there was little hope if they were by themselves, so seeing the elves, seeing that alliance reformed, was great in my mind. But I get your opinion, interesting point.

[Aisil Alquasilme]

I think the elves were great, it was a nice extra touch to the movie. I get why some poeple son`t like it but I have no problems with it, it looked great

[Fiwen Brandybuck]

This is one of the things I didn't have a big problem with. What I was annoyed about was the failure of the Dunedain to turn up at the beginning of the Return of the King to go on the paths of the dead with the three companions. Instead, Elrond turned up, which really spoiled it for me.

[Tenacious]

What is the deal with Elrond turning up when he did? Aragron should have had Anduril since he left Rivendell. This was a really bad mistake by PJ - one of his worst if you ask me. I know he made A LOT, but this one is right up there with the exclusion of The Scouring and the wings on the balrog. Why I hear you ask. It sets off a chain of events that makes non-readers very unenlightened when it comes to the stuff they didn't include in the movies.
As if Elrond would have time to go all the way out there to deliver the sword to him. The masses of orcs attacking Rivendell may have posed a bit of a problem, and one that needed all of Elrond's attention. Now those who havn't read the book think that the Elves are just sitting back, sipping some miruvor awaiting a ship to set sail on. Have you seen Why didn't the Elves help out at the battle of Pelenor? That really gets on my nerves. So i suggest that question not be posted, or the reply you get will be so long-winded it will bore you to tears.

[Seles]

Well personally I'm not too upset about the elves turning up at helm's deep even though it wasn't in the books, but it's a pity that the men weren't given their time to shine in the TTT. If I had never read the books, I'd probably still think that 'men are weak' (quote Elrond). It's quite ridiculous really, when Gandalf can be quoted saying later that "...defeat at Helm's Deep showed our enemy one thing... Men are not as weak as he supposed. " and thus failed to acknowledge the alliance altogether. The inclusion of the elves was probably done to attract a larger audience or more specifically, teenage fangirls who'd pay for tickets over and over just to catch a glimpse of elves in battle.

[RunyadStouty]

I agree, it was a major twist, but It really works on screen. It shows the audience the friendship that exists between men and elves