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Post by Vugar on Nov 15, 2004 5:17:28 GMT 10
PJ drastically changed the number of men stationed at Helm's Deep for the battle there. Only 300 defending such a small fort, though not impossible. In the book, there were at least 1,000 defending the Hornburg. How do you feel about such a drastic change?
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Post by Giliathriel Alquasilme on Nov 16, 2004 13:34:29 GMT 10
Hello, V! (if you don't mind the nickname) I think he did that because it would be too hard to maneuver that, and don't bring up pellenor fields!  I think he did it for the effect that it would bring, seeing all of those few men defending their only hope for survival. |
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Post by Caewýn Alquasilme on Nov 16, 2004 16:12:17 GMT 10
actually, it never crossed my mind. I saw the movies before I read the book, so I had no idea about sizes or anything, what PJ showed I thought worked really well, I was so caught up in the suspense and action that the numbers never really caught my attention!
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Post by Giliathriel Alquasilme on Nov 17, 2004 14:16:51 GMT 10
I agree. I also saw the movies before I read the books. Well, I did read RotK, but I didn't really take it in... it was very well done.
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Post by Vugar on Nov 18, 2004 10:42:21 GMT 10
Yeah, PJ made the orc army at least number 200,000 at Pelennor Fields to really increase the drama. I think both were alright for the movies. I always enjoy watching the Helm's Deep battle on EE. Can't wait for RotK EE. I believe the real army was around 45,000 in the book, though you can't be sure, but that is what most agree on.
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Post by Steorrlith on Nov 27, 2004 22:30:11 GMT 10
Like what Gili has said, kinda to make it more 'WOW', give the movie more excitement, the lesser the odds the better you know? It's all about making money *g* I mean like who wants to watch a movie with 1,000 versus 45,000 as compared to 300 vs 200,000?
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Post by Aisil Alquasilme on Dec 4, 2004 19:33:01 GMT 10
I mean like who wants to watch a movie with 1,000 versus 45,000 as compared to 300 vs 200,000? haha, that is so true, It was just for the effect I think |
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Post by Fiwen Brandybuck on Dec 4, 2004 19:39:20 GMT 10
Well there were 300 men of Rohan (and Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli), but then all the elves from Lothlorien came, so I think their numbers might have reached 1000 with all the elves as well. This makes the odds a bit better, but they still couldn't have won without the reinforcements.
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Post by Seles on Dec 15, 2004 12:24:54 GMT 10
I didn't look at such details when I was in the theatre, though perhaps PJ reduced the numbers so that it would be easier for them to capture the happenings on screen. If there were too many soldiers running about, each scene would appear crammed and we'd have to upsize the fortress and etc, it probably reduced the costs of the movie, of having to use bigger dimensions (to the scenes) to accomodate such numbers and it'd also reduce the time.
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Post by Giliathriel Alquasilme on Jan 17, 2005 20:03:03 GMT 10
In a way, it also represented the central theme that no matter what the ever changing towards the other side odds are, good always comes out on top, as corny as it sounds, and is.
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Post by RunyadStouty on Apr 24, 2005 15:17:02 GMT 10
Well I feel it makes the whole battle more exciting, and the victory feel more "beating the odds" type of feeling. I guess the number was changed to make the win drastic
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I think he did it for the effect that it would bring, seeing all of those few men defending their only hope for survival.
